Hello Christy,
Thankyou for all the wonderful stuff about rhythm. Now we’re talking! It’s one of my favourite subjects. There’s so much I want to talk and hear about, but I know you will be very busy this week.
The first thing that comes to mind is unmetered rhythm. I haven’t done much but it’s such a free instinctive area. Lagan love is where I’m at. Also possibly Gortatagort? It sits very easily on the harp.
I looked up Órchealteach. It means goldilocks? 😊. A bit more searching found me Donal Lunny recordings from 1987. They are for today.
Your sister has released an album? I will be listening to her.
My very best wishes for the coming week. May you bask in the light.
Rebecca
Fascinating about the rhythms at work.I’v always enjoyed your approach in all formats, but watching the lockdown sessions,really emphasised the precision of your playing.Strumming and especially,finger picking.There’s a subliminal bodhran beat at work,it seems.Fair play…
A good weekend ‘Guardian’ piece about Richard and Linda Thompson,with the bonus of some interesting readers’ comments. Inevitably,there was some focus on whether or not,he’s the ‘best’ guitarist around… I won’t engage in that,but will say he’s a wizz on electric and acoustic.I like fish and chips.I like curry.I wouldn’t say one is ‘better’than the other – it depends on the mood…over to ‘Dimming of the day’ now – lovely stuff…
Hello Christy,
Rhythm has been a big part of my life since before I can remember. When I was a child running down the 13 stairs at home, they always went
Digadiga. Digadiga. Digadiga. Dum.
This is one of the things I love about your music.
Those lovely 10 beat phrases in Yellow Furze Woman. Its the same feeling with ringing the bell, all 7 beats, no matter what the emotion of the song, the rhythm is a joy.
When the rhythm switches one way and then back again, like in a pair of brown eyes on magic nights, from the vocal to the instrumental, and then back again in a flash..
I’m not really going anywhere with this, just musing.
Rebecca
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Despite what you say Rebecca, I like where you are going here….its Rhythm that keeps the Heart of the Work beating….”Digadiga Digadiga Digadiga Dum”
Back in 1972 I decided to try and play Bodhrán in Planxty…primary purpose was to free Donal Lunny up for Bouzouki duties…
As I became familiar with the practice it began to impact upon my guitar rhythm..this in turn effected my phrasing and a personal singing style began to take shape..
I loved playing Bodhrán in Planxty….Liam used to sometimes nod approvingly as He piped off the rhythm,
Loved playing with Matt Molloy too….such powerful rhythm in his music…
Donal Lunny assembled a Celtic Orchestra in 1985 (“Órchealteach”- not sure of the spelling)it had 3 Bodhrán players..it was a 30 piece (approx) ensemble..I thought it an exciting project but it failed to progress beyond its only performance in the National Concert Hall..there are some recordings on the tube
Great set list from Lisdoon….. so many fine songs. Maybe there can be more of these Intimate physically distanced gigs in the not too distant future.
We look forward now to the NCH….. we will all be in the front row , singing along and maybe even clapping too….. like spuds falling out of a bag !!!
Lisdoonvarna holds such special memories for a great many of the 4711ers…… perfect place to get things rolling again.
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and there ye were Marty…thank you for your support…very different nights…a story in themselves….
Hi Christy,
Great to hear of your gig in Clare…a wee bit of normality. Was in Clare years ago but never walked the Burren…next time! Always loved Planxty’s West Coast of Clare. A few words from Seamus Heaney…
And some time make the time to drive out west
Into County Clare, along the Flaggy Shore,
In September or October, when the wind
And the light are working off each other
So that the ocean on one side is wild
With foam and glitter
Go well, Mary
Christy's reply
Seamus truly captured The Flaggy Shore….Clare is full of wonders….. North,South,East and West Clare all have their own unique treasures….
from Lisdoon to Kilkee, Scariff to Spainish Point and a hundred Townlands in between….music abounds,from memories of Junior Crean, Paddy Canny,Mrs Crotty,Willie Clancy, Dr.Bill., right down to the bright sparks that light the fire in today’s sessions….
Not too many days start with a smile,but today has…for no specific reason,I had ‘The good ship Kangaroo’ in mind.Always a favourite and epitomising the tight playing/story telling of Planxty. Found a great youtube version from a gig in Howth .The unexpected humour is the bit where it looks like you thought Liam was coming in early and you start to grin…lovely to see a band ‘at work’ and ace ensemble music.
Totally agree about your take on ‘De Dannan’ /Alec and co.Dolores will always be one of ‘the greats’ as well.
Have a good day
Dave
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Standing (or sitting) next to Liam when Planxty were “on song” was one of life’s great pleasures….
Ps Christy it would be good to hear the bodhran next saturday.
Rb
Christy's reply
Having ruptured a long arm bicep, I’ve had to ease back on percussion activity in recent months…I’m seeking to develop a different technique, to limit movement between elbow and shoulder, to keep it all betwixt elbow and wrist….
that said,there is no fear of there ever being a shortage of Bodhrán Beaters on the Island…70 years ago there was but a handful throughout the land…. but Seán Ó Ríada, The Chieftains, Planxty,The Bothy Band, De Danaan and Stockton’s Wing came along in the 60s &70s….The fate of the goat population has been perilous ever since
O young shelmalier he sang out in the west,
Of all the youtubers his sound was the best,
And save his good mandolin, fancy tech he had none,
He played in his bedroom and he sang all alone,
faithful to folk music ,not an amp to be seen,
A shelmalier of such talent, and him barely sixteen.
After appearing ( not as an accused) in Sir Walter Scott’s very own Selkirk courthouse this week , i decided that the donkey whispering, musical devotee and birthday boy had to ride with Lochinvar.
A parcel of rogues, rabbie’s fine work, try some of Scott’s collected poems like The Twa Corbies.
Regards Rory
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Thanks Rory….I’ve just glanced through Sir Walter’s legacy…he surely lived a full life…
We live and learn…from your tip,I’ve just watched the brilliant TG4 Alec Finn doc. Wonderful music and an absorbing story… I’d no idea Alec was a Yorkshire man and the older brother of Gervaise Finn who has had a long career as a teacher and raconteur.
Ace to see clips of De Dannan in their prime.Only saw them once at a brilliant,free open air gig,opposite Trinity College,one Summer Saturday several decades back. Happy days…
Dave
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Alec carved his own path…his accompaniments remain unique…De Danaan blazed a Western Trail ….I still recall the excitement generated by the original line-up of Frankie,Charlie,Alec,Johnny Ringo and Dolores……
Ps and i meant to say a happy 16th to CS (15) as it must be around now, his 4711 posts are fascinating, his youtube entertaining. Fair play to you both.
Rory
Christy's reply
I’ll second that…
Our young shelmalier is stretching out towards adulthood…
Like a light shining from the West
Hi Christy, the gloom will be lifted in 8 days time, so i have decided on my own virtual gig meantime.
I may hear some or none of these on 19th but in the meantime they have sprung to mind and will be featuring over the next few days in my bunker’s virtual CM gig as lockdown 2 creeps ever closer.
Back home in Derry
Boy from Tamlaghtduff
Giuseppe/away ye broken heart
Scapegoats
Yellow Triangle
Spancilhill
No time for love
I will have a flask of tea and a selkirk bannock to see me through
Rory
Hi Christy!
Bernard and I are very excited to be spending a virtual evening with you on September 19th. I especially delighted as this is also my birthday so what really could be better?!?!
If you added Lisdoonvarna to the play list that would be wonderful!
Take care and keep well!! You are loved in Canada!
Sylvia Warnke
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I’m in serious training mode here Sylvia….wish you and Bernard a happy time on your Birthday
Interesting ‘Guardian’ piece and readers’ comments re ‘Ulysses’ today. All parties saying how hard it is to read,but how rewarding, as the writing works on several levels. A few people (me included) reckon it’s ok to dip in and out and savour extracts, a bit like playing a favourite track,not a whole LP.Wondering if you agree,or if I’m being sacrilegious!?
Just revisited the soundtrack of the Coens’ film ‘Inside Llewyn Davis’ -so good I played it twice,great melancholic version of ‘Shoals of Herring’,amongst other gems. Superb film too.
Good call of Rebecca’s to miss last night’s session. Tricky to play when head and heart are elsewhere.
I’m sure the Atkin is firing well.
Dave
Christy's reply
Jimmy Joyce and Sacrilege walk hand in hand…
the words just flow out of him….
the good for nothin god lit sideways thick lugged sons of hoors gets
cant say that I enjoyed that movie…maybe I’ll give the soundtrack a birl…but more then likely I’ll be at the Atkin
hi christy hope this wee note finds you and yours in good health during this crazy times were all trying to deal with . Im looking forword to your concert stream in a few days . will you be playing any new material and have you anything in the pipeline for release in the next few months . My girls are sending their love . hopefully you will be back on the road soon . all the best Graeme Thom
Christy's reply
I prob wont include any new material in the stream next week
Its challenging,the prospect of singing in an empty Concert Hall to thousands of Listeners scattered around the World…But I’m determined to give it my very best effort
There is lots in the pipeline
Universal Music are releasing “The Early Years” in October
and I’m working on an Album which will be released on Columbia as soon as its ready
I hope to do a live stream of new songs at that time
Hello Christy,
I’m very glad to hear about your outing in Lisdoonvara, may there be many, many more successful gigs now the spell is broken.
He ploughed a lonely furrow to the North South East and west.
Of all the navigators, St Brendan was the best.
Steve had a bit of a dark day yesterday so I decided to stay in with him last night. I didn’t get to the grove. Their Facebook page for Open Mind used a pic of me to advertise it. Pic of the harp really, I think. It’s a beautiful thing.
I’ve got the book about Krumlin, just started it. Brian Highley sounds like a scream. I’ve been looking at the pictures. The one of the policemen searching the site was pretty chilling.
I love the talk of songs here. Mary mentioned faithful departed, which got me listening. Thanks Mary. I’m learning that being in a state of bewilderment about songs is not a bad place to be.
I watched some of Dave’s gig. Dave, you looked to be doing a fine job.
Rebecca
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Well done Rebecca
we all need the helping hand of Love on dark days
First Things First
the Grove will still be there
‘Parcel of Rogues’, a great example of combining history, poetry,music and current affairs.What ‘folkies’ are all about…and an unexpected bonus to be riffing on it during dismal political times.
Spot on with your Burns connection and no surprise that Ewan MacColl included it in his vast repertoire.
Very emotional for sure,Christy…congrats to you and all involved with live music.
Just watched BBC – PM questions (which is a contradiction in terms).Ian Blackford MP for SNP provided a highlight…using the term a ‘parcel o’ rogues’ to describe the Government. Featured in a trad song/ title of a Steeleye Span LP,it’s a great comment…these days ,I use stronger terms,but they could lead to trouble for an MP!
Have a good day
Dave
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“Such a Parcel of Rogues”…I think twas written by Robbie Burns…….I’m guessing a bit here but there is a distant bell chiming..I rem Hamish Imlach singing it and also Luke Kelly….Hamish was a great mentor and Luke a tremendous influence
Great news about the Lisdoon gig. What sort of number allowed to attend? Must have been a buzz to be back ‘on the boards’.
Thanks for the gig comment. Back in the ‘old days’,with c 60 people ,in a room for c 40! Lots of chat,that is reduced a bit through headphones,but ‘better than nothing’we figured.Especially,when a favourite venue is now RIP.
Just admiring the piping of Sile Friel on tg4 archive.Great,close up camera shots that emphasised the precision of her finger work.Sile definitely had the octopus beaten at the time of recording!
Enjoy the travels and post gig satisfaction.Another aspect of life that’s missed at present. More lockdown likely as well. Fair play to Rebecca for finding a venue…I bet there’s a great night due.
Dave
Christy's reply
We had 50 listeners in a room that can hold 160 so there was precise social distancing….I underestimated the emotional dimensions of returning after such a long lay -off….added to the stresses that everyone is under these days….we were all in it together, all trying to do our best and support each other….
Christy, it was great to hear you in the Royal Spa tonight in Lisdoon. Well done. Some great classics. Onwards and upwards. Looking forward to being in the audience again soon! Ride on!
Christy's reply
After 6 months it was good to sing to listeners again….singing at home is a very different process…its like humming away quietly to oneself…stopping and starting, making changes, trying different things…but when the listeners are there before me its like entering a different realm….last night I went a bit awry but ,thankfully, managed to bring the boat to shore….glad it went well for you Daniel..thank you for your feedback
Hello Christy,
Thankyou for all the wonderful stuff about rhythm. Now we’re talking! It’s one of my favourite subjects. There’s so much I want to talk and hear about, but I know you will be very busy this week.
The first thing that comes to mind is unmetered rhythm. I haven’t done much but it’s such a free instinctive area. Lagan love is where I’m at. Also possibly Gortatagort? It sits very easily on the harp.
I looked up Órchealteach. It means goldilocks? 😊. A bit more searching found me Donal Lunny recordings from 1987. They are for today.
Your sister has released an album? I will be listening to her.
My very best wishes for the coming week. May you bask in the light.
Rebecca
.Thanks very much for Listoon.It was poetry in motion.Looking forward to the Concert Hall.The very best of luck with the gig.Next stop Monks Lane.
Thanks Dave….its a long and winding road…the Brother told me he met you today
Hi Christy
Fascinating about the rhythms at work.I’v always enjoyed your approach in all formats, but watching the lockdown sessions,really emphasised the precision of your playing.Strumming and especially,finger picking.There’s a subliminal bodhran beat at work,it seems.Fair play…
A good weekend ‘Guardian’ piece about Richard and Linda Thompson,with the bonus of some interesting readers’ comments. Inevitably,there was some focus on whether or not,he’s the ‘best’ guitarist around… I won’t engage in that,but will say he’s a wizz on electric and acoustic.I like fish and chips.I like curry.I wouldn’t say one is ‘better’than the other – it depends on the mood…over to ‘Dimming of the day’ now – lovely stuff…
enjoy the day
Dave
fine as a bee’s wing
Hello Christy,
Rhythm has been a big part of my life since before I can remember. When I was a child running down the 13 stairs at home, they always went
Digadiga. Digadiga. Digadiga. Dum.
This is one of the things I love about your music.
Those lovely 10 beat phrases in Yellow Furze Woman. Its the same feeling with ringing the bell, all 7 beats, no matter what the emotion of the song, the rhythm is a joy.
When the rhythm switches one way and then back again, like in a pair of brown eyes on magic nights, from the vocal to the instrumental, and then back again in a flash..
I’m not really going anywhere with this, just musing.
Rebecca
Despite what you say Rebecca, I like where you are going here….its Rhythm that keeps the Heart of the Work beating….”Digadiga Digadiga Digadiga Dum”
Back in 1972 I decided to try and play Bodhrán in Planxty…primary purpose was to free Donal Lunny up for Bouzouki duties…
As I became familiar with the practice it began to impact upon my guitar rhythm..this in turn effected my phrasing and a personal singing style began to take shape..
I loved playing Bodhrán in Planxty….Liam used to sometimes nod approvingly as He piped off the rhythm,
Loved playing with Matt Molloy too….such powerful rhythm in his music…
Donal Lunny assembled a Celtic Orchestra in 1985 (“Órchealteach”- not sure of the spelling)it had 3 Bodhrán players..it was a 30 piece (approx) ensemble..I thought it an exciting project but it failed to progress beyond its only performance in the National Concert Hall..there are some recordings on the tube
Great set list from Lisdoon….. so many fine songs. Maybe there can be more of these Intimate physically distanced gigs in the not too distant future.
We look forward now to the NCH….. we will all be in the front row , singing along and maybe even clapping too….. like spuds falling out of a bag !!!
Lisdoonvarna holds such special memories for a great many of the 4711ers…… perfect place to get things rolling again.
and there ye were Marty…thank you for your support…very different nights…a story in themselves….
Hi Christy,
Great to hear of your gig in Clare…a wee bit of normality. Was in Clare years ago but never walked the Burren…next time! Always loved Planxty’s West Coast of Clare. A few words from Seamus Heaney…
And some time make the time to drive out west
Into County Clare, along the Flaggy Shore,
In September or October, when the wind
And the light are working off each other
So that the ocean on one side is wild
With foam and glitter
Go well, Mary
Seamus truly captured The Flaggy Shore….Clare is full of wonders….. North,South,East and West Clare all have their own unique treasures….
from Lisdoon to Kilkee, Scariff to Spainish Point and a hundred Townlands in between….music abounds,from memories of Junior Crean, Paddy Canny,Mrs Crotty,Willie Clancy, Dr.Bill., right down to the bright sparks that light the fire in today’s sessions….
Mornin’ Christy
Not too many days start with a smile,but today has…for no specific reason,I had ‘The good ship Kangaroo’ in mind.Always a favourite and epitomising the tight playing/story telling of Planxty. Found a great youtube version from a gig in Howth .The unexpected humour is the bit where it looks like you thought Liam was coming in early and you start to grin…lovely to see a band ‘at work’ and ace ensemble music.
Totally agree about your take on ‘De Dannan’ /Alec and co.Dolores will always be one of ‘the greats’ as well.
Have a good day
Dave
Standing (or sitting) next to Liam when Planxty were “on song” was one of life’s great pleasures….
Ps Christy it would be good to hear the bodhran next saturday.
Rb
Having ruptured a long arm bicep, I’ve had to ease back on percussion activity in recent months…I’m seeking to develop a different technique, to limit movement between elbow and shoulder, to keep it all betwixt elbow and wrist….
that said,there is no fear of there ever being a shortage of Bodhrán Beaters on the Island…70 years ago there was but a handful throughout the land…. but Seán Ó Ríada, The Chieftains, Planxty,The Bothy Band, De Danaan and Stockton’s Wing came along in the 60s &70s….The fate of the goat population has been perilous ever since
O young shelmalier he sang out in the west,
Of all the youtubers his sound was the best,
And save his good mandolin, fancy tech he had none,
He played in his bedroom and he sang all alone,
faithful to folk music ,not an amp to be seen,
A shelmalier of such talent, and him barely sixteen.
After appearing ( not as an accused) in Sir Walter Scott’s very own Selkirk courthouse this week , i decided that the donkey whispering, musical devotee and birthday boy had to ride with Lochinvar.
A parcel of rogues, rabbie’s fine work, try some of Scott’s collected poems like The Twa Corbies.
Regards Rory
Thanks Rory….I’ve just glanced through Sir Walter’s legacy…he surely lived a full life…
Hi Christy
We live and learn…from your tip,I’ve just watched the brilliant TG4 Alec Finn doc. Wonderful music and an absorbing story… I’d no idea Alec was a Yorkshire man and the older brother of Gervaise Finn who has had a long career as a teacher and raconteur.
Ace to see clips of De Dannan in their prime.Only saw them once at a brilliant,free open air gig,opposite Trinity College,one Summer Saturday several decades back. Happy days…
Dave
Alec carved his own path…his accompaniments remain unique…De Danaan blazed a Western Trail ….I still recall the excitement generated by the original line-up of Frankie,Charlie,Alec,Johnny Ringo and Dolores……
Ps and i meant to say a happy 16th to CS (15) as it must be around now, his 4711 posts are fascinating, his youtube entertaining. Fair play to you both.
Rory
I’ll second that…
Our young shelmalier is stretching out towards adulthood…
Like a light shining from the West
Hi Christy, the gloom will be lifted in 8 days time, so i have decided on my own virtual gig meantime.
I may hear some or none of these on 19th but in the meantime they have sprung to mind and will be featuring over the next few days in my bunker’s virtual CM gig as lockdown 2 creeps ever closer.
Back home in Derry
Boy from Tamlaghtduff
Giuseppe/away ye broken heart
Scapegoats
Yellow Triangle
Spancilhill
No time for love
I will have a flask of tea and a selkirk bannock to see me through
Rory
I’ve not addressed the set list yet Rory….
Hi Christy!
Bernard and I are very excited to be spending a virtual evening with you on September 19th. I especially delighted as this is also my birthday so what really could be better?!?!
If you added Lisdoonvarna to the play list that would be wonderful!
Take care and keep well!! You are loved in Canada!
Sylvia Warnke
I’m in serious training mode here Sylvia….wish you and Bernard a happy time on your Birthday
Hi Christy
Interesting ‘Guardian’ piece and readers’ comments re ‘Ulysses’ today. All parties saying how hard it is to read,but how rewarding, as the writing works on several levels. A few people (me included) reckon it’s ok to dip in and out and savour extracts, a bit like playing a favourite track,not a whole LP.Wondering if you agree,or if I’m being sacrilegious!?
Just revisited the soundtrack of the Coens’ film ‘Inside Llewyn Davis’ -so good I played it twice,great melancholic version of ‘Shoals of Herring’,amongst other gems. Superb film too.
Good call of Rebecca’s to miss last night’s session. Tricky to play when head and heart are elsewhere.
I’m sure the Atkin is firing well.
Dave
Jimmy Joyce and Sacrilege walk hand in hand…
the words just flow out of him….
the good for nothin god lit sideways thick lugged sons of hoors gets
cant say that I enjoyed that movie…maybe I’ll give the soundtrack a birl…but more then likely I’ll be at the Atkin
hi christy hope this wee note finds you and yours in good health during this crazy times were all trying to deal with . Im looking forword to your concert stream in a few days . will you be playing any new material and have you anything in the pipeline for release in the next few months . My girls are sending their love . hopefully you will be back on the road soon . all the best Graeme Thom
I prob wont include any new material in the stream next week
Its challenging,the prospect of singing in an empty Concert Hall to thousands of Listeners scattered around the World…But I’m determined to give it my very best effort
There is lots in the pipeline
Universal Music are releasing “The Early Years” in October
and I’m working on an Album which will be released on Columbia as soon as its ready
I hope to do a live stream of new songs at that time
Good to hear from you Graeme
Hello Christy,
I’m very glad to hear about your outing in Lisdoonvara, may there be many, many more successful gigs now the spell is broken.
He ploughed a lonely furrow to the North South East and west.
Of all the navigators, St Brendan was the best.
Steve had a bit of a dark day yesterday so I decided to stay in with him last night. I didn’t get to the grove. Their Facebook page for Open Mind used a pic of me to advertise it. Pic of the harp really, I think. It’s a beautiful thing.
I’ve got the book about Krumlin, just started it. Brian Highley sounds like a scream. I’ve been looking at the pictures. The one of the policemen searching the site was pretty chilling.
I love the talk of songs here. Mary mentioned faithful departed, which got me listening. Thanks Mary. I’m learning that being in a state of bewilderment about songs is not a bad place to be.
I watched some of Dave’s gig. Dave, you looked to be doing a fine job.
Rebecca
Well done Rebecca
we all need the helping hand of Love on dark days
First Things First
the Grove will still be there
Hi Christy
‘Parcel of Rogues’, a great example of combining history, poetry,music and current affairs.What ‘folkies’ are all about…and an unexpected bonus to be riffing on it during dismal political times.
Spot on with your Burns connection and no surprise that Ewan MacColl included it in his vast repertoire.
Dave
Two Bumps Josie
Very emotional for sure,Christy…congrats to you and all involved with live music.
Just watched BBC – PM questions (which is a contradiction in terms).Ian Blackford MP for SNP provided a highlight…using the term a ‘parcel o’ rogues’ to describe the Government. Featured in a trad song/ title of a Steeleye Span LP,it’s a great comment…these days ,I use stronger terms,but they could lead to trouble for an MP!
Have a good day
Dave
“Such a Parcel of Rogues”…I think twas written by Robbie Burns…….I’m guessing a bit here but there is a distant bell chiming..I rem Hamish Imlach singing it and also Luke Kelly….Hamish was a great mentor and Luke a tremendous influence
Hi Christy
Great news about the Lisdoon gig. What sort of number allowed to attend? Must have been a buzz to be back ‘on the boards’.
Thanks for the gig comment. Back in the ‘old days’,with c 60 people ,in a room for c 40! Lots of chat,that is reduced a bit through headphones,but ‘better than nothing’we figured.Especially,when a favourite venue is now RIP.
Just admiring the piping of Sile Friel on tg4 archive.Great,close up camera shots that emphasised the precision of her finger work.Sile definitely had the octopus beaten at the time of recording!
Enjoy the travels and post gig satisfaction.Another aspect of life that’s missed at present. More lockdown likely as well. Fair play to Rebecca for finding a venue…I bet there’s a great night due.
Dave
We had 50 listeners in a room that can hold 160 so there was precise social distancing….I underestimated the emotional dimensions of returning after such a long lay -off….added to the stresses that everyone is under these days….we were all in it together, all trying to do our best and support each other….
Christy, it was great to hear you in the Royal Spa tonight in Lisdoon. Well done. Some great classics. Onwards and upwards. Looking forward to being in the audience again soon! Ride on!
After 6 months it was good to sing to listeners again….singing at home is a very different process…its like humming away quietly to oneself…stopping and starting, making changes, trying different things…but when the listeners are there before me its like entering a different realm….last night I went a bit awry but ,thankfully, managed to bring the boat to shore….glad it went well for you Daniel..thank you for your feedback